INN's Charlotte McLeod took the time to dive deeper into the issue of the rising tide of ESG mandates with me. Don't make the mistake of dismissing this issue for ideological reasons; it's becoming life or death for mining projects to get this right. Like it or not, this is a sweeping change that isn't going away. Smart investors and speculators will adapt—and watch out for companies that fail to do so.

Timestamps:
0:00 - welcome
0:24 - The history of ESG in mining
2:58 - Paradigm shift in approaches to ESG
8:17 - ESG could change Fraser Institute rankings
12:37 - How investors can approach ESG
16:21 - Assessing companies' ESG efforts
21:04 - ESG key, but mining still a business
25:32 - Balancing ESG with good margins
29:59 - Lobo's final thoughts on ESG